镜头前下方有红色西北标志的早期西光厂华山AE相机

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<p><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>还是看了梁喜宁先生的文章”罕见的中国照相机(1):庄克明老师所著的《中国照相机》一书未录的相机“文中提到的第一款相机，“华山AE照相机：西安西北光学仪器厂生产的135型华山AE单镜头平视取景照相机，镜头上刻有红色“西北”图案的一款，属早期产品,产量很少”的介绍，去闲鱼搜了一下，还真发现了唯一的一台符合描述的相机，附带原皮包和破损的说明书。按照本坛江湖游客的说法，华山相机对于收藏者来说轻于鸿毛，没有人愿意太多关注它的缘故吧，卖家也是按普通华山AE相机标的价格。搜的过程中还发现另一台1983年9月生产的华山AE相机，因为箱说发票齐全，还有个挺漂亮的玫红色的皮套，就一起下单了，正好也有个对比。</span></p><p><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'><br></span></p><p><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>因为华山AE相机的编号正好在过片扳手的下面，除非卖家特意拍照，网上照片基本都看不到。所以收到相机之后才发现，我拍的这台红字AE机身编号为8200260，结合本坛江湖游客在《中国相机每日贴》1640楼和1647楼的相关描述，他那台的编号为8100054，如果编号是按照总产量递增的话，那就是从1981年到1982年也不过生产几百台，所以比较少见吧。“<span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>资料显示华山AE由西安西北光学仪器厂1983年研制生产，同年6月通过国家质量鉴定。”而那台1983年9月份的AE编号是8303534，可见产量迅速提升。</span></span></p><p><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'><br></span></span></p><p><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>对比手头的两台AE相机，发现以下一些区别：</span></span></p><p><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'><br></span></span></p><p><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; overflow-wrap: break-word; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>1、最主要的当然是镜头上的红色西北标志，而且82年西北标志镜头上的字符涂漆笔画较细，很精致；而83年的镜头字符涂漆笔画较粗，边缘也不及82年规整。</span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><img style="max-width:400px" src="http://bbs.camgle.com/data/attachment/album/201911/27/104439eqhv633r8itt1zrt.jpg" border="0"></span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><br></span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'>2、红色西北标AE镜头快门数值为红色，而83年（可能之后都如此）为白色，同样字符涂漆相比更精致。</span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><img style="max-width:400px" src="http://bbs.camgle.com/data/attachment/album/201911/27/104443c1o7omooc28voxxe.jpg" border="0">&nbsp; <img style="max-width:400px" src="http://bbs.camgle.com/data/attachment/album/201911/27/104444zq7mp7732eppge12.jpg" border="0"></span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><br></span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'>3、两款机身蒙皮不同，红字AE网格更密一些。还有诸如红字AE后盖底片压板的冲印凸起较浅，电池仓塑料条是乳白色的这些细微不同之处。</span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><img style="max-width:400px" src="http://bbs.camgle.com/data/attachment/album/201911/27/104442fkv50bp9vzmnabsv.jpg" border="0"></span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><br></span></span></p><p>4、还有在皮包上，红色AE的皮包字符图案是金色烫印的，皮质垫层比较单薄，而83年AE是压印的，皮质垫层比较厚实挺括；而且皮包拉链开口的方向正好相反。</p><p><img style="max-width:400px" src="http://bbs.camgle.com/data/attachment/album/201911/27/104441c1l587udu003e33m.jpg" border="0"><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><br></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><b></b><i></i><u></u><strike></strike><br></span></span></p><p><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'><span style='text-align: left; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma,"Microsoft Yahei","Simsun"; font-size: 16px; font-variant: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline !important; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; float: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'>我对胶片机没什么研究，也是在本坛看了帖子才收了两台玩玩，描述不妥之处还请见谅。</span></span></p>

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按俞泽民先生所编撰的《中国相机发展历程》一文所载，1982年，西北光学仪器厂试制“华山AE型”35MM电测光照相机成功；1983年，西北光学仪器厂试制的“华山AE型”35mm照相机定型投产。是不是红字华山AE属于试制机，而非红字版属于定型生产机型呢？

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郑重 发表于 2019-11-28 10:31
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